Confusing diets to help beat cancer

DeltaRed

Anyone want to talk about food?  Sugar is bad, fat is good, ok to eat Grassfed meat and stay away from processed food. Dairy and grains are suppose to be bad, now Lectins are bad too.  Is Keto diet the answer to help fight tumor growth.  Should we supplement with vitamin c,  vitamin D3.  Drink lots of green tea, and ginger turmeric tea.  Stay completely away from alcohol or moderation.  Any thoughts?
someone also suggested a drop of frankenscense under tongue.  

Flowergirl

Agreed, there are too many confusing details out there. Best to find someone you can trust and work with
https://www.dietitians.ca/ is  reliable site and your cancer centre should have someone to refer you to. 
Best of luck for sure and update your DR team.

Trinity

Hello everyone🙂 I am new to the forum. I do not have ovarian cancer, but my Mother was diagnosed with Stage 3 ovarian cancer with mets to her peritoneum, in 2016. It was not a good prognosis since she was 83 years old. I am a Registered Holistic Nutritionist in Perth, Ontario. My interest in cancer nutrition led me to obtain my Certification as a Certified Holistic Nutritionist in 2017. Because of my Mom, I worked really hard to keep her immune system in top shape, especially during her 6 rounds of Carboplatin. Well, she is amazing and is now 85+ years old, and living very well. Her CA 125 at diagnosis was 1500. She is now 8. Just wanted everyone to know there is great nutritional assistance with a CHCP.  I can provide further info to contact one in your area. I am in the Ottawa area and currently am assisting clients with cancer in general. I know in my heart that the body is more powerful than we can imagine. Never ever give up hope, because there are many ways to give the body what it needs. Cancer is not a disease, it is only a symptom ... Blessings to all.  Keep the faith. 

DeltaRed

Thanks Trinity; Like your mom, I’m coming out of 3C ovarian cancer and I’m doing well but want to zero in on best diet for me.  I’ll be seeing a Naturopath in two days.  My plan is to go on a Keto diet and intermittent fasting.  Eating only in certain hours of the day.  If you know of a CHCP in my area 
Vernon BC. I’ll keep the reference in mind.  

Trinity

Hi DeltaRed, glad you'll be seeing a Naturopath. Lynne Hinton, from Health House, in Markham, Ontario (apart of Toronto), is a program director at the Edison Institute of Nutrition. She taught the program I took, to become a Certified Holistic Cancer Practitioner. She would be able to provide you with a CHCP in your area. 905-294-9720, or healthhouse.ca. Hope that helps. Stay healthy 🙂

Sylviequebecbc

Hi DeltaRed, 
Have you started Keto? 

I have been on a Keto diet since june 2018, mostly. I found it hard during chemo, my stomach wanted what it wanted. There is a good web site about Keto diets: dietdoctor.com

There are good recipes on the site, you can become a member but you don't have to: lots of info without a membership. 
Let me know how it is going for you!     

nadiaC

Hi @Trinity Do you know any naturopaths and dieticians specializing in cancer in the Montreal area? I’m having difficulty finding these types of specialists here. Thank you!

Fearless

@nadiaC
Reach out to Valerie Dinh, the Regional Manager for OCC for Quebec.  She may have some resources to recommend or thoughts on the subject.  Worst case, you should know each other anyway. vdinh@ovariancanada.org
 

christineyang

Hi @Trinity
I agree whole heartedly with your words regarding diet and cancer as a symptom. 

My mom just completed her debulking surgery a couple days ago and I would really like to do my best to get her in touch with someone who can really ensure her immune system is in great shape.

She lives in Oakville , but also very close to Mississauga. Would you be able to recommend someone ? Or are you offering your services over the phone ?

Thanks so much for sharing your mom’s story - it’s very encouraging ! 

Trinity

Hi cristineyang, thank you for your message, and I am sending positive healing thoughts to your Mom. I think it would be very helpful and positive for you to look into a Certified Holistic Cancer Practitioner is the Oakville/Mississauga area.  I think that would be a better plan than me counselling over the phone. It’s better the Practitioner is able to see your Mom in person to start with, and develop a good plan. My cancer certification ( I am a Registered Holistic Practitioner and a Certified Holistic Cancer Practitioner.). So, my highest recommendation is to call Lynne Hinton, who taught my program and developed it. She is a BSc, BEd, ROHP, and a Certified Holistic Cancer Practitioner. She is in Markham, and will be able to tell you who in your area can help with your Mom. She is co-owner of Health House, 105 Ramona Blvd, Markham. Phone: 905-294-9720. She is highly, highly knowledgeable and super friendly. 🙂 My Mom is now 89+, and is doing extremely well. She had a recurrence in 2018, and was treated with laparoscopic surgery for removal of small tumour. She continues to follow the right foods, keeps her immune system very strong, and has continued to live her life so well with my near 90 yr old Dad. She is a true example to me that faith, perseverance, the right care, and knowing your body, is what has surpassed a grim diagnosis in 2016. They never thought she’d live. She’s here as an ovarian cancer survivor to prove: it can be done. Never give up and always believe. I have great hope for your Mom. Let me know if you have any questions. Take care. 👍🙋‍♀️

maryp

Trinity said:

Hello everyone🙂 I am new to the forum. I do not have ovarian cancer, but my Mother was diagnosed with Stage 3 ovarian cancer with mets to her peritoneum, in 2016. It was not a good prognosis since she was 83 years old. I am a Registered Holistic Nutritionist in Perth, Ontario. My interest in cancer nutrition led me to obtain my Certification as a Certified Holistic Nutritionist in 2017. Because of my Mom, I worked really hard to keep her immune system in top shape, especially during her 6 rounds of Carboplatin. Well, she is amazing and is now 85+ years old, and living very well. Her CA 125 at diagnosis was 1500. She is now 8. Just wanted everyone to know there is great nutritional assistance with a CHCP.  I can provide further info to contact one in your area. I am in the Ottawa area and currently am assisting clients with cancer in general. I know in my heart that the body is more powerful than we can imagine. Never ever give up hope, because there are many ways to give the body what it needs. Cancer is not a disease, it is only a symptom ... Blessings to all.  Keep the faith. 

Hi Trinity,  I know this post is old, but my mom is in London. Any recommendations CHCP in that city?

Trinity

Hi Mary, I wish I knew .. but I am not current with any listings of CHCP’s in your area. I’ve mentioned to a couple of others to contact Lynne Hinton at Health House: 905-294-9720, she is a CHCP, but is also the founder and course director for the cancer program at the Edison Institute of Natural Nutrition. Because of this program, she likely has a roster of graduates who are now Certified Holistic Cancer Practitioners, all over Ontario and Canada. She probably can refer you to one on London, Ontario. At least she could give you one who is closer to you. It’s better to see one in person; one who can work closely with you. I hope that helps. Let me know. 👍🙋‍♀️👏

Trinity

Sorry, I meant to mention Lynne is in Markham. 😉

Fearless

Hello Ladies, 
This is very interesting and helpful information for anyone seeking enhancements to the traditional approach to treatment. That said, if you entertain any of these alternatives, please please ensure your oncologist is aware and participates in an overall holistic approach.  There are many non-prescription medications, vitamins and foods that can seriously affect efficacy of some of the more traditional treatments and specifically some of the trial medications.  

BellaDonna1959

@Trinity - it's great to hear about your mom!  I have a similar 3C cancer- ovarian spread all through the abdominal cavity - inoperable, platinum-resistant and they gave me 'likely months to live' 7 months ago now.  I am treating it with diet, supplements, off-label drugs and their 'maintenance' Taxol and Avastin.  I am fighting to save my own life. I believe what goes in affects the body more than modern medicine cares to admit.  It's exhausting sometimes though and I wonder, "What if all of this effort isn't enough?"  They don't expect me to survive - but I know it's possible.  Thanks for sharing your mom's story - it gives me hope. My oncologist and the hospital pharmacist know what I'm doing so they can look for contra-indications, but mostly, I cross-reference and research every food, every supplement, every drug myself.  I trust myself and my own research.  My cancer docs  - every assumption they made about my cancer was incorrect.  I've lost a lot of faith in modern medicine. There are so many studies on PubMed about food, supplements and a cancer yet our 'standard of care' ignores them all. But I resent that I have to work so hard at this on my own.  My registered holistic doc helps but I've maxed out my benefits for her services now. I greatly appreciate your inspiring story about your mom - it makes me feel it's all worth it.  Do you think there was something specific that helped to save your mom or was it the overall intake of healthy nutrients? Thanks. 

Trinity

Hi BellaDonna,
I am delighted to hear of your great progress! Well done. I know it is very challenging, and I have total respect for conventional oncology. To me, for my mother, it seems to be a combined effort that continues to give her success. Oncology is ever changing, and I know that everyone is biochemically different: what works for one doesn’t always work for others. However, I have great faith believing that it is the individual who sits in the “Driver’s Seat”, and is the one who determines how it all works out. I think for my mother, her deep belief in herself, her perseverance against all odds, combined with “super charging” her body with all the whole nutrients it needs to fight, plus good conventional care, pulled her through. I particularly focused my mother on a combination of many vitamins and whole foods- introducing Curcumin and others. She always ate well: egg salad sandwiches, lovingly made by my Dad ( who learned from her!), once a month: beef liver, things like that. Even if she felt nauseous- she ate. All I can say, Bella Donna, she’ll be 90 yrs old next May. She was 83 at her diagnosis, with a top Oncologist who predicted, “grim prognosis”. They didn’t even recommend she try Chemo- she had 6 rounds of it, and I sat next to her through each one. There is a great book to read, that I have and had during her treatment: Dr. Russell Blaylock: “Natural Strategies for Cancer Patients”, and I found it very inspiring. You have a terrific attitude and though it seems like you are “ on your own”, know that Faith keeps you company. I am wishing you the very best. 

Oh, as for my Mom, she continues to be strong, and actually is looking after my near 90 yr old Dad, who is well, but has aging issues. She drives, looks after them, takes care of their day to day needs. She’s quite formidable. However, she says it herself: “I know that I didn’t want to leave this world any sooner than I have to- so, I just do everything I can to stay the best I can be, and have faith”. 

maryp

I'm going to order Natural Strategies for Cancer Patients. Anyone else have any other book recs for healthy eating while battling cancer? 

BellaDonna1959

I will order it too, thanks.   I have the cookbook from Chris Wark available on his website Chrisbeatcancer.com and Amazon.ca  There are a lot of encouraging videos on his site too - they also inspire me and keep me going when you get so sick and tired of being sick and tired.  I follow a lot of his ideas for eating.  Thanks for the encouragement Trinity!  Yes, I do believe that modern meds plus whole foods can work better than either one alone.  I'm open to many modalities of treatment as long as I can find some proof that it may work for my unique cancer.  I seem to have been cursed with a rare and fast growing mutation they tell me, so whatever promising treatment I can hit it with I'm willing to try it.

Fearless

At least in Ontario, most if not all Cancer Centres have a social work department and in that a nutritionist versed in cancer care.  My oncologist made the referal for me and I spent a couple of meetings with ours talking about my eating habits and how I could adjust them to address healthier eating for the cancer.  I also discovered that contrary to all the advice I had been receiving elsewhere, a high fibre diet actually iritates my system and Im better off with either a low or low-medium fibre diet.  And the meetings and advice was free. 

maryp

BellaDonna, I am rooting for you. It appears my mom has something rare too. They cant pinpoint primary origin just yet. could be ovarian, or stomach or bowel etc. but throughout her abdomen. It sucks and if they come back with negative news we will still fight. Right now we are on a eating organic healthy kick and lots of water. No sugar and processed foods. My mom is currently taking bone broth that she will drink every day. eating well doesn't hurt and we need to keep her energy up when she does start chemo. We just gotta work on mental health which is so important in this battle.